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		<title>MIDI DIN Vs MIDI USB Latency</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A small article where I share you my user experience about the MIDI latency between the 5 pins DIN connectors and the USB plugs. [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.keyboardwaves.com/midi-din-vs-midi-usb-latency-test/">MIDI DIN Vs MIDI USB Latency</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.keyboardwaves.com">Keyboard Waves</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">A small article where I share you my user experience about the <strong>MIDI latency</strong> between the 5 pins DIN connectors and the USB plugs.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I want to compare the speed between a MIDI signal through the MIDI DIN vs MIDI USB. I want to be sure that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">USB</a> is too fast that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI#Connectors" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">my &#8220;old-fashioned&#8221; MIDI DIN</a> and not add latency when I play.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">For the test:<br />
A Nord Stage (master) controls a MOTIF (slave) :</p>
<figure id="attachment_993" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-993" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-993 size-medium" src="http://keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/nordstage2-300x149.png" alt="nordstage2" width="300" height="149" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-993" class="wp-caption-text">MASTER &#8211;&gt;</figcaption></figure>
<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-986 size-thumbnail" src="https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/MotifXF-420x226.png" alt="MotifXF" width="420" height="226" srcset="https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/MotifXF-420x226.png 420w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/MotifXF-400x215.png 400w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/MotifXF.png 450w" sizes="(max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px" /></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong> </strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>1: With the classic MIDI DIN (5 pins)</strong>, we obtain the following result : 2 ms latency between the first signal generated by NORD STAGE and the second generated by the MOTIF.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1348" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1348" style="width: 944px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-1348 size-full" src="http://keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-DIN.png" alt="midi-din" width="944" height="683" srcset="https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-DIN.png 944w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-DIN-744x538.png 744w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-DIN-420x304.png 420w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-DIN-768x556.png 768w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-DIN-400x289.png 400w" sizes="(max-width: 944px) 100vw, 944px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1348" class="wp-caption-text">NORD STAGE &#8212; MIDI DIN &#8211;&gt; MOTIF XF = 2 ms</figcaption></figure>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>2nd: With USB</strong> cable into a router. And using the small <a href="http://notahat.com/midi_patchbay/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">MIDI Patchbay software</a> to route the USB MIDI signal between devices. The computer used, is a MacBook 2012. Same result : 2 ms latency between the two synthesizers. <strong><em>So there is no additional latency when using USB MIDI</em></strong> even through a small freeware.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1347" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1347" style="width: 948px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1347 size-full" src="http://keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-USB.png" alt="midi-usb" width="948" height="705" srcset="https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-USB.png 948w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-USB-744x553.png 744w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-USB-420x312.png 420w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-USB-768x571.png 768w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Midi-USB-400x297.png 400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 948px) 100vw, 948px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1347" class="wp-caption-text">NORD STAGE &#8212; MIDI USB &#8211;&gt; MOTIF XF = 2 ms</figcaption></figure>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>3rd: With 2 different MIDI interfaces</strong> (<a href="http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/E-Mu-Xmidi-1x1-Tab-USB-MIDI-Interface/KSJ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">EMU 1X1</a> and <a href="http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/iConnectivity-iConnectMidi-4and-Lighting-Edition-MIDI-Interface/19EQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Iconnectivity MIDI4+</a>), produces the following result : 5 ms latency. Probably due to the USB/MIDI Conversion.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1350" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1350" style="width: 946px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1350 size-full" src="http://keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/EMU-Midi.png" alt="emu-midi" width="946" height="697" srcset="https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/EMU-Midi.png 946w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/EMU-Midi-744x548.png 744w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/EMU-Midi-420x309.png 420w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/EMU-Midi-768x566.png 768w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/EMU-Midi-400x295.png 400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 946px) 100vw, 946px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1350" class="wp-caption-text">NORD STAGE &#8212; Iconnectivity MIDI4+ Interface &#8211;&gt; MOTIF XF = 5 ms</figcaption></figure>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>4th: But this latency is reduced to 3 ms</strong> when using the internal routing of the interface (Iconnectivity) between its various MIDI DIN plugs. Therefore, the interface latency is 1 ms.</p>
<figure id="attachment_1351" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1351" style="width: 942px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1351 size-full" src="http://keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DIN-TO-DIN-VIA-INTERFACE.png" alt="din-to-din-via-interface" width="942" height="699" srcset="https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DIN-TO-DIN-VIA-INTERFACE.png 942w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DIN-TO-DIN-VIA-INTERFACE-744x552.png 744w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DIN-TO-DIN-VIA-INTERFACE-420x312.png 420w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DIN-TO-DIN-VIA-INTERFACE-768x570.png 768w, https://www.keyboardwaves.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DIN-TO-DIN-VIA-INTERFACE-400x297.png 400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 942px) 100vw, 942px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1351" class="wp-caption-text">NORD STAGE &#8212; IConnectivity midi4 + (DIN) &#8211;&gt; MOTIF XF = 3 ms</figcaption></figure>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong><em>In summary :</em></strong></p>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li><strong><em>MIDI DIN and MIDI USB have exactly the same latency.</em></strong></li>
<li><strong><em>But a conversion from one format to another will add a few ms (3 ms in my test)</em></strong></li>
<li><strong><em>The best thing you can do is to plug in all MIDI DIN or all USB MIDI.</em></strong></li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: right;"><em>by Stefpiano from Keyboardwaves</em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">PS : The USB MIDI connection, after hours of test on OSX, is extremely stable, even through an extension and a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Targus-4-Port-USB-2-0-ACH114US/dp/B0046TOQ8S/ref=pd_sbs_147_2/134-9079653-6490359?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B0046TOQ8S&amp;pd_rd_r=6ab62fbf-2921-4de0-8e35-3255a3ce67d8&amp;pd_rd_w=E9zis&amp;pd_rd_wg=ZyBGs&amp;pf_rd_p=7cd8f929-4345-4bf2-a554-7d7588b3dd5f&amp;pf_rd_r=H1RH8TM668NX4E6H79WA&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=H1RH8TM668NX4E6H79WA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">passive USB router</a>.</p>
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